Student Profile: Menasze Rozenblum

Gender: boy
School: Gymnasium and high school for boys


Stage 1: Identity
Student's Given Name:
Menasze Hersz Rozenblum
Source: Lodz Ghetto Inhabitants Database, Vol. 1-4 & 5
Status: Submitted 11/11/2010; Confirmed | Researcher: marcoshelby
 
MENASZE HERSZ ROZENBLUM
Source: Lodz Ghetto Inhabitants Database, Vol. 1-4 & 5
Status: Submitted 11/14/2010; Possible | Researcher: EvanBoli
Birth Date:
1924-09-08
Source: Lodz Ghetto Inhabitants Database, Vol. 1-4 & 5
Status: Submitted 11/11/2010; Confirmed | Researcher: marcoshelby
 
1924-09-08
Source: Lodz Ghetto Inhabitants Database, Vol. 1-4 & 5
Status: Submitted 11/14/2010; Possible | Researcher: EvanBoli
User Comment:

Although, the search returned with a middle name the, first/ and last name match. The birthdate also lines up with the date he would have attended Gymnasium, and the gender matches as well.

Approver Comment:
I agree that you've found the Menasze Rozenblum who signed the album. In September 1941, Menasze would have just turned 17, making him, as you note, the appropriate age to be in Gymnasium.

As far as the middle name goes, feel free to put it down in the "Names" field as part of his name--Menasze Hersz Rozenblum might have just chosen to sign his first and last names in the album, but it's good to have the middle name down so we can confirm where he shows up in other records.

Also note that Menasze lived at Kreuzstrasse 12, apartment 11, and Mittel 76.

A good start--I'm going to mark this stage "Confirmed" and look forward to seeing what you find for Stage 2!
User Comment:

I am fairly sure this is him, but because there was no occupation under his profile in the source, I was not 100% sure.  However his birthday matches the time frame of 1921-27.  Additional notes enclude two addresses, "KREUZ 12 11" and "MITTEL 76".  Additionally I found a Ghetto Note that read "AUSG 22.6.42" which means he was deported to Chelmno June 22nd 1942.  What I did find interesting when I moved into the second stage and recieved access to the second source, was that there were no deportations to Chelmno during the summer, and that most of the Jews were sent in January, according to the source.  From looking through this source further I found that 620 male Jews were sent to Poznan/Posen camps in June of 1942.  This matches well with this boy since he would have been 18 years old and perfect for a labor force.

Approver Comment:
Have you talked to Marco? He started this same record last week, and you've both found the same person--who I'm pretty sure is the person who signed the album. Check out what he found on Mosze's page; I'd be interested to see how you respond to one another's research.

I suspect you're correct in saying that Mosze was sent to Poznan, rather than Chelmno, in June 1942. While the database does say that "AUSG" always refers to deportation to Chelmno, I'm not so sure that this is the case, and you've pretty clearly found an example that is an exception to this rule. When you do see a record that says "AUSG," "A.G.," or anything else that looks like an abbreviation for "Ausgegangen," do exactly what you just did--don't assume that it was a deportation to Chelmno unless you have a transport number that you can trace back or unless it's during a period (January or September 1942, for instance)where we know of transports that went to Chelmno. Thanks for your thoroughness in checking the secondary sources to be sure!

Before you say for certain that Mosze wound up in Poznan, make sure you can verify it against another source. This will probably come up in Stages 2 and 3, so bring some of your comment from this stage with you when you reach that stage, and see what your classmates have to say.

I'm going to mark this stage as "Possible," and I'm excited to see what else you find out!

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Stage 2: The Ghetto
Father's Name:
Szlama Chaim Rozenblum
Source: Hospital, Labor, Deportation, and Administrative Records from the Lodz Ghetto
Status: Submitted 11/18/2010; Possible | Researcher: marcoshelby
Mother's Name:
Rywka Rozenblum
Source: Hospital, Labor, Deportation, and Administrative Records from the Lodz Ghetto
Status: Submitted 11/18/2010; Possible | Researcher: marcoshelby
Deported / Transferred:
1942-06-22
Source: Hospital, Labor, Deportation, and Administrative Records from the Lodz Ghetto
Status: Submitted 11/18/2010; Possible | Researcher: marcoshelby
User Comment:

According to his profile Menasze moved twice, first from Kreuz apartment 11 to 12, then to Mittel 76. He was deported in June of 1942, which, according to the secondary files charts suggests he would not have gone to Chelmno. Chances are he was sent to Aushwitz there were no other documented transports in the summer of 1942. We looked through 1210 people with the last name Rozenblum and found four other people who's birth dates work and all of the other information is a perfect match . Two of which we think are Menasze's sisters. The first is Miriam Rozenblum who was born 15-7-21, an age appropriate for a sister. The second is Rojza Etla Rozenblum born 6-9-19, who also could have been an older sister to Menasze. The second two people are definitely Menasze's parents, the ages are appropriate and they shared all three of the same addresses as well the same deportation date(which was also shared with the two potential sisters). The father, Szlama Chaim Rozenblum born 16-10-1890. The mother, Rywka Rozenblum, born in the year 1890. I believe we have exhausted our resources at this stage. All the documents of Lodz deportation suggest that there were no deportations in the summer of 1942. However, the database clearly shows that Menazse and his whole family were deported in June of 1942.

Re: I believe it was Auschwitz because, at this point there were only documented deportations to Chelmno, Auschwitz and Polzan. However, every where I have searched has suggested that there were no transports to Chelmno in the summer of 42 and Polzan was all male laborers. Seeing that Menazse and his whole family left on the same day I doubt he would have been sent to Polzan.

Approver Comment:
First off, I'm really impressed at your dedication in going through all 1210 records for Rozenblum, and congratulations on the finds.

In the "Chronicle of the Lodz Ghetto" (Gelman has a copy available), we find that there were transports to Poznan, a labor camp, beginning in early June. That trail runs cold after the first two weeks in June, but it is possible that there might still have been transports to Poznan going on during this time. Take a look through some other secondary materials (the Chronicle or any other books you might find) and see what you think the story is. Why do you think he was sent to Auschwitz?

Re: Auschwitz--sound reasoning. I'm going to continue to mark this as possible, but you're convincing me more and more.

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Stage 3: Labor Camps
 
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Stage 4: Auschwitz & Beyond
 
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Stage 5: Liberation & After
 
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