Student Profile: Mosze Edelman

Gender: boy
School: School #1


Stage 1: Identity
Student's Given Name:
Moszek Edelman
Source: Lodz Ghetto Inhabitants Database, Vol. 1-4 & 5
Status: Submitted 12/1/2010; Possible | Researcher: jul07010
 
Moszek Aron Edelman
Source: Lodz Ghetto Inhabitants Database, Vol. 1-4 & 5
Status: Submitted 11/15/2010; Possible | Researcher: john.griffin91
 
Moszek Aron Edelman
Source: Lodz Ghetto Inhabitants Database, Vol. 1-4 & 5
Status: Submitted 12/1/2010; Possible | Researcher: jul07010
Birth Date:
1929-02-02
Source: Lodz Ghetto Inhabitants Database, Vol. 1-4 & 5
Status: Submitted 12/1/2010; Possible | Researcher: jul07010
 
1930-02-28
Source: Lodz Ghetto Inhabitants Database, Vol. 1-4 & 5
Status: Submitted 11/15/2010; Possible | Researcher: john.griffin91
 
1930-02-28
Source: Lodz Ghetto Inhabitants Database, Vol. 1-4 & 5
Status: Submitted 12/1/2010; Possible | Researcher: jul07010
User Comment:

Entering Mosze’s exact name, three results appear. One of the results is Moszek Aron Edelman who has a birth date of February 28, 1930 and is listed as a student. This would have put him at the right age to be in grammar school. He was deported to Chelmno on May 15th, 1942 in Transport 20/2 and killed there. On the list of students on the Research Project’s page, there is only one other person listed with the same last name, Baruch Edelman. The research on this boy had already been completed. This boy had the same ghetto address, HOHENS 43, as well as the same date and transportation for deportation to Chelno. This boy was a few years older so it is extremely likely that they were siblings.

 

Along with the original list from searching Mosze Edelman, the name Moszek Edelman appeared with a birth date of February 2, 1929. He would also be the appropriate age to be in grammar school. It is equally likely that either of these two boys were the one that signed the yearbook.



Approver Comment:
I agree that you're on the right track about the person who might have signed the album. Your initial hunch was right--either Moszek Edelman might have signed the album, since a birthdate in 1928 or 1929, as you say, would make the student the appropriate age to have been in school #1 in 1941. If you wouldn't mind, please enter the other Moszek Edelman's information into stage 1 on separate lines from Moszek Aron Edelman's information, just so that we know that there are two possibilities and can follow both through the next stages of research. Also, keep an eye out for the birthdates to merge, change, and intersect (2/2 versus 28/2 would be pretty easy to mistype) as you follow the students; given the close birthdates and similar addresses, there is also a slim possibility that these are two separate records for the same person.

Another potential signer, although a bit younger than these two, is Mojsze Ajdelman, born in 1933. He's less likely to be our guy, but just in case, you might want to follow him through the next few stages as well.

In addition to Baruch Edelman, who may have been a brother or male cousin to Moszek, you might want to check back through the database search for "Edelman" and see if anyone else turns up at Hohenstrasse 43--just looking briefly, I found Bejla Edelman, born in 1928 and living at the same address, a likely candidate for a sister or female cousin. Let me know what you find!

I'm going to have to mark this record as "possible" for two reasons: first, until we know more about the two Moszeks, we can't say for certain which one signed the album; second, we don't know for sure that Moszek was transported to Chelmno (there's a good possibility, given the transport number, but I'd want to see more information to support it before I approve it) and was killed there. If you could qualify your statement in the comments about his transport to Chelmno and add the other possible name and date, that would be great! See you in Stage 2.
User Comment:

Two possible matches for Mosze Edelman are returned in the search engine.  One is Moszek Aron Edelman, born February 28, 1930, and one is Moszek Edelman, born February 2, 1929.  I believe that the correct match is Moszek Aron Edelman, like the previous researcher, because he has the same address (A.M. and then HOHENS 43) as Boruch Edelman, who is also of grammar school age and who is listed in the Student List as from the same school as Mosze Edelman.  I believe that this is his brother. 

Approver Comment:
Please see my comment to the other researcher as well, then go ahead and add in Moszek Edelman (no Aron) and his birthdate, February 2, 1929 on a separate line so that we have a record of this other possible signer as well. Thanks!

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All set! See you in stage 2.

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Stage 2: The Ghetto
Father's Name:
Szyja Edelman
Source: Hospital, Labor, Deportation, and Administrative Records from the Lodz Ghetto
Status: Submitted 11/29/2010; Possible | Researcher: jul07010
Mother's Name:
Chana Ruchla Edelman
Source: Hospital, Labor, Deportation, and Administrative Records from the Lodz Ghetto
Status: Submitted 11/29/2010; Possible | Researcher: jul07010
Deported / Transferred:
1942-05-15
Source: Hospital, Labor, Deportation, and Administrative Records from the Lodz Ghetto
Status: Submitted 11/29/2010; Possible | Researcher: jul07010
Transport #:
20/2
Source: Hospital, Labor, Deportation, and Administrative Records from the Lodz Ghetto
Status: Submitted 11/29/2010; Possible | Researcher: jul07010
Camp Deported/Transferred to:
Chelmno, Poland
Source: Secondary Sources
Status: Submitted 11/29/2010; Possible | Researcher: jul07010
Place of Death:
Chelmno, Poland
Source: Secondary Sources
Status: Submitted 11/29/2010; Possible | Researcher: jul07010
User Comment:

I believe I have found Mosze's family: his mother, father, sister, and two brothers, all living first at A.M. and then at HOHENS 43.

They were all deported to Chelmno and killed in the gas vans on May 15, 1942; Transport Number 20/2.

Mother: Chana Ruchla Edelman, F, DOB 05/12/1900, Hausfrau

Father: Szyja Edelman, M, DOB 08/12/1900, Arbeiter

Brother: Boruch Edelman, M, DOB 26/04/1927, Schueler

Brother: Idel Edelman, M, DOB 05/02/1932, Schueler

Sister: Bejla Edelman, F, DOB / /1928, Schuelerin

Approver Comment:
I agree that all of these people are potential relatives of Moszek's; please do be careful, though, about assuming they all died in Chelmno until you have information that absolutely supports that they both went to and were killed there.

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Stage 3: Labor Camps
 
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Stage 4: Auschwitz & Beyond
 
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Stage 5: Liberation & After
 
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