There were two people were assigned to go to kill somebody in the office, a German in the office. And the last minute, one of them got scared and he didn't want to go. And I was there and I hear the story, and I knew already that there's ten to twelve Germans were already killed. So I know the...the ordeal I know already. We are already...unless we get out, otherwise we are dead. So Selma brought me a knife with a point, knife. I said I wanted to go. You see, from all these people, what people brought from the transport...utensils and all the things...there were a warehouse for it, and we're not far from this warehouse, so she went there in and she picked a knife, a pointed knife. She gave me a knife, and I went with the other fellow. I don't think I was a big hero or a big courageous man, but I, I figured it's self defense and survival. If I don't do it, it might spoil the whole thing. So I, I instinctively...there's no decision. It's not a decision. You just react, instinctively you react to that, and I figured, "Let us to do, and go and do it." And I went. I went with the man in the office, and we killed this German. With every jab, I said, "That is for my father, for my mother, for all these people, all the Jews you killed." And I...my knife slipped out...slid out from my hand and I cut myself.