The difference between Nuremberg and the ICC [International Criminal Court] of course, or the ICTY (the Yugoslav tribunal), is that the Nuremberg tribunal of course was a tribunal that consisted of judges drawn from the four victor countries and it was established by them, whereas these tribunals -- the Yugoslav tribunal and the Rwanda tribunal -- have been established by the Security Council. And the ICC has been established by treaty and the judges come from all parts of the world. That's progress, and in a sense it shows that it's not only one group of the international community but the entire international community which has an interest in these institutions and has a part in it.