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Frank Ephraim

“The way the trip went was we left one evening, went to the local railroad station in Berlin, that at that time was called Anhalterbahnhof. It no longer exists as such. Hopped on a train. It was a sleeper. We went overnight, changed in Munich, next morning, and from there we began to head toward Italy, the border. We went through Austria, and the train was stopped in Brenner, Brenner pass, which is the border between Austria and Italy. There everybody had to get out. The German side, we were searched, body search, all the luggage was searched. That delayed everything. The train left without us. We had to wait another six hours for the next train.”
(postwar testimony)

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Eve Kristine Vetulani
Eve Kristine Vetulani
Eve Kristine Vetulani

Interview — Describes a Jewish woman her family adopted.



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Transcript:

[Kristine] During the war he asked my mother, "Can you take a Jewish woman into your house?" and, no, he asked me, if my mother would take this Jewish woman, and I said no, never tell her that she is Jewish. This grandmother did not want to go with her Jewish children to Italy, she said I'm too old I am going to die here, I'm not going any place, I love this city, okay. And the cook was left with her, but then when she came to live with us the cook would always come to deliver food so that my mother really didn't have to do anything except make the toilet paper. But everything else was delivered. And so he was also the one who, she stayed. And I was already in Germany and she died peacefully in our house and nobody knew. Except that I had to teach her, my uncle said, you have to teach her prayers, Catholic prayers, the first thing they do they ask you about the Christian Catholic holidays, and the years of this and that.

[Interviewer] If they're checking your identity, right, to make sure?

[Kristine] And he says to me, I have, I have a rosary and give it to her in her hands. So even if someone talks to her, nobody would talk to an old lady doing the rosary. And she, and they would leave her in peace. But the trouble with this lady was that she was kind of deaf. So when she prayed, I said to her to pray loud so people around would hear she is not a Jew but a Catholic. And so she prayed so loud that people kept on knocking on the floors, knocking on the ceiling, knocking on the walls, and said tell her to shut up with this prayers.

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