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Frank Ephraim

“The way the trip went was we left one evening, went to the local railroad station in Berlin, that at that time was called Anhalterbahnhof. It no longer exists as such. Hopped on a train. It was a sleeper. We went overnight, changed in Munich, next morning, and from there we began to head toward Italy, the border. We went through Austria, and the train was stopped in Brenner, Brenner pass, which is the border between Austria and Italy. There everybody had to get out. The German side, we were searched, body search, all the luggage was searched. That delayed everything. The train left without us. We had to wait another six hours for the next train.”
(postwar testimony)

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Helen Luksenburg
Helen Luksenburg
Helen Luksenburg

Interview — Describes death march, cattle cars.



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Transcript:

We walked for three days. The Germans didn't know what to do with us. Then finally, we went back. We went back and they put us on trains in Gleiwitz and on these trains, they were open cattle trains, on these trains were already people from Auschwitz. They attached us to them. I jumped on the first women's train, because I saw him on the last of the man's. So at least we could see each other. We were, there were 200 people in a wagon. You couldn’t even crouch down to take, to close your eyes. If you fell asleep, you standing up. We were just wearing, they opened the storages with the clothes, we could take out clothes, civilian clothes what they took from us. But I took a pair of shoes and I didn't, I refused to take a coat or anything because I wanted when the Allies will bomb that they see I am prisoner, I was wearing the stripes. And I had a blanket on me and a pair of shoes. The first night we stopped someplace the moving. I couldn’t, from walking, I couldn't put on the shoes anymore, my feet were swollen. He found me once, he heard some voices, and he found me, we were on the top in the barn sleeping, when we were walking. The men were below, he found me once and he comes and finds me and I have a red nose, he said, and I'm crying because I had a piece of bread and somebody stole the piece of bread from under my bed, under my head. So he shared again his bread with me. Going on the trains, eventually there was more room, people were dying and we were throwing them overboard.

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